{"id":2954,"date":"2012-08-17T19:33:02","date_gmt":"2012-08-18T03:33:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/?p=2954"},"modified":"2013-11-12T21:45:47","modified_gmt":"2013-11-13T05:45:47","slug":"video-the-police-yes-i-say-again-yes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/2012\/08\/video-the-police-yes-i-say-again-yes\/","title":{"rendered":"Video the Police? Yes. I Say Again YES."},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_2959\" style=\"width: 295px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/filmsomething_2.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2959\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2959 lazyload\" title=\"filmsomething_2\" data-src=\"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/filmsomething_2-285x300.jpg\" alt=\"film something\" width=\"285\" height=\"300\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 285px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 285\/300;\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2959\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">film something<\/p><\/div>\n<h1><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">YES! YES! YES! YOU CAN VIDEO POLICE!!!!\u00a0<\/span><\/h1>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a National post article on your right to video and photograph agents of the state in Canada (police, CRA you name it). Karen is a lawyer and works with <a title=\"CFF\" href=\"http:\/\/www.canadianconstitutionfoundation.ca\/\" target=\"_blank\">Canadian Constitution Foundation<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The below is a lawyer&#8217;s opinion not some average man or woman with no official legal training and no license to practice law. Maybe what she says carries a bit more weight with you?? She deals with these issues in court.<\/p>\n<p>Apparently canadian police have a policy of trying to hide their criminal actions by &#8220;not allowing&#8221; or seizing cameras that are being used to video their criminal acts.<\/p>\n<p>Too harsh you say? Well, <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">if they did not have anything to hide then they would not mind being videoed.<\/span><\/strong> Isn&#8217;t that the line they use ALL THE TIME when they invite us to waive our rights?<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">FACT ONE:<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0&#8220;<strong>people are getting arrested, charged or even assaulted by police officers, merely for attempting to take photos or videos of officers at work.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">FACT TWO:<\/span><\/strong>\u00a0&#8220;<strong>There is no law in Canada that prohibits people from openly photographing police.&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>FACT THREE:<\/strong><\/span>\u00a0\u00a0<strong>People have to hire a lawyer, or do it yourself, and threaten court proceedings to get remedy because the police take the stance\u00a0<strong>\u201cWe can do whatever we want.\u201d and until they get charge, prosecuted, fined, fired, jailed&#8230;&#8230;they are right.<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>FACT FOUR:<\/strong><\/span> <strong>It&#8217;s up to each and everyone of us to hold them accountable or things will only get worse.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve highlighted some key points in her article and added a couple of editorial comments in [ just my biased opinion ]&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>*** 11\/19\/2012 &#8211; UPDATE -Interview AUDIO*** LATEST DISCUSSION<\/p>\n<h1>Karen Selick: You have the right to remain silent \u2026 and film the\u00a0proceedings<\/h1>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Karen Selick, Special to National Post<\/span>\u00a0|\u00a0Aug 17, 2012 6:00 AM ET\u00a0| Last Updated:Aug 17, 2012 11:01 AM ET<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>What have cops got against cameras these days? Increasingly, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">people are getting arrested, charged or even assaulted by police officers, merely for attempting to take photos or videos of officers at work.<\/span> Often, police simply command people to stop photographing. Scared into thinking they must be breaking some law, citizens comply.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>When <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Polish visitor Robert Dziekanski died<\/strong><\/span> after being tasered at the Vancouver airport in 2007, <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>police seized the now famous video<\/strong><\/span> made by witness Paul Pritchard, who <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">had to hire a lawyer and threaten court proceedings to get it back.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The American Civil Liberties Union has <strong>won numerous court cases against police who illegally harass photographers and videographers, but says nevertheless: \u201cA continuing stream of incidents \u2026 makes it clear that the problem is not going away.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The phenomenon struck close to home on August 2 when I got a phone call at 7:30 a.m. from my client Montana Jones telling me that numerous officers were at her farm with a search warrant. Ms. Jones is suspected of complicity in making 31 rare Shropshire sheep disappear from her farm before they could be seized and killed by the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) on suspicion of disease. (Incidentally, when 26 of the missing sheep were eventually found and killed two months later, all tested disease-free.) [criminal actions by the CFIA I&#8217;m sure. These were genetically pure, rare sheep&#8230; a threat to the GMO and mono culture culture of government and CFIA&#8230;who wanted them dead and closer to extinction].<\/p>\n<p><strong>Although Ms. Jones has not been charged with anything, the only phone call the police would let her make<\/strong> was to me, her lawyer. She asked me to call a couple of her friends who live nearby and have them come over to videotape the proceedings. <strong>Two friends arrived at separate times with their cameras, but an officer stationed at the farm gate denied them entry and forbade them to take photos<\/strong>. \u201cI have my orders,\u201d was his only explanation.<\/p>\n<p>One of the friends returned later carrying only a pen, her wallet and identification. After being <strong>threatened with arrest if she dared walk up the driveway,<\/strong> she was finally allowed entry by a more senior member of the investigation team, but was again<strong> warned that she had better not be carrying a cell phone or any other data recording device.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000; text-decoration: underline;\">There is no law in Canada that prohibits people from openly photographing police.<\/span><\/strong><\/span> Section 129 of the Criminal Code prohibits \u201cwilfully obstructing\u201d police in the execution of their duty, but it is hard to imagine how standing by peacefully and videotaping as police searched the premises and piled up items for seizure could be considered obstructing. After all, <strong>the police themselves were videotaping on Ms. Jones\u2019 premises \u2014 but selectively<\/strong>. They probably didn\u2019t capture themselves ordering her friend to refrain from taking the pictures she was legally entitled to take.<\/p>\n<p>That same day, three other <strong>search warrants were executed at the homes of other individuals the CFIA suspects of conspiring with Ms. Jones to save her healthy sheep<\/strong>. <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000; text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>A<\/strong><\/span><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000; text-decoration: underline;\">t Michael Schmidt\u2019s residence, all cell phones were immediately confiscated.<\/span><\/strong><\/span> When a visitor from outside arrived with his cell phone, Schmidt\u2019s wife borrowed it and took photos of police inside her home. <span style=\"text-decoration: underline; color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Officers seized the phone even though it was clearly outside the scope of the warrant. They returned it three hours later, with the photos erased.<\/strong><\/span> <strong>When the victim of this apparently illegal seizure objected, police responded, \u201cWe can do whatever we want.\u201d<\/strong> But of course, that arrogant response was not permitted to be recorded.<\/p>\n<p>That willful destruction of data by police probably constitutes the offence of mischief under section 430(1.1) of the Criminal Code [how about destroying evidence???]. <strong>The <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">possibility<\/span> of the victim laying charges is being investigated.<\/strong> [If they are not pursued with FULL vigour then the victim is giving the police free reign to continue their illegal actions].<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000; text-decoration: underline;\">Police must be made to understand that being on duty or executing a search warrant does not transform an officer into a petty dictator with carte blanche to issue arbitrary orders to everyone in sight.<\/span><\/span><\/strong> <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Police cannot do \u201cwhatever they want.\u201d Citizens have the right to hold them accountable for their actions. Personal cameras are important tools in implementing that right. Bullying people out of using them must cease.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The Baltimore City Police Department is being sued for allegedly seizing and deleting the contents of a man\u2019s cell phone after he recorded officers making an arrest. Recently, the <strong>U.S. Department of Justice<\/strong> \u2014 which appears to have intervened in the lawsuit \u2014 <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>issued guidance to the Baltimore Police recommending that it affirmatively assert individuals\u2019 constitutional right to observe and record police while discharging their duties.<\/strong><\/span> Let\u2019s hope this triggers a sea-change in police attitudes not only south of the border, but here in Canada too. [never without citizens suing the police for these acts which are an attempt to coverup their crimes].<\/p>\n<p>National Post<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Karen Selick is the litigation director for the Canadian Constitution Foundation.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/fullcomment.nationalpost.com\/2012\/08\/17\/karen-selick-you-have-a-right-to-remain-silent-and-film-the-proceedings\/\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/fullcomment.nationalpost.com\/2012\/08\/17\/karen-selick-you-have-a-right-to-remain-silent-and-film-the-proceedings\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>reposted under fair use to ensure the retention on the internet of this article and for educational and commentary purposes. PDF of article here &#8212;&gt;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/Video-the-police-in-Canada-National-Post.pdf\">PDF OF &#8211; Video the police in Canada | National Post<\/a><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Other articles on this site about this issue:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><a title=\"video-phones-our-best-protection\" href=\"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/2010\/06\/video-phones-our-best-protection\/\" target=\"_blank\">Video-phones-our-best-protection<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><a title=\"video-the-police-all-you-want\" href=\"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/2011\/11\/video-the-police-all-you-want\/\" target=\"_blank\">Video-the-police-all-you-want<\/a><\/p>\n<p>IMAGE CREDIT- <a title=\"\/the-worst-police-misconduct-videos-of-2011\" href=\"http:\/\/www.policemisconduct.net\/the-worst-police-misconduct-videos-of-2011\/\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.policemisconduct.net\/the-worst-police-misconduct-videos-of-2011\/<\/a>\u00a0 if you are into police brutality reality tv they have &#8220;<strong>The fifth worst police misconduct videos of 2011&#8243;<\/strong> for your viewing uhhh&#8230;pleasure&#8230;if you have the stomach.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>YES! 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