{"id":2639,"date":"2012-07-21T10:43:16","date_gmt":"2012-07-21T18:43:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/?p=2639"},"modified":"2014-08-02T16:36:52","modified_gmt":"2014-08-02T23:36:52","slug":"rcmp-fail-again-how-to-not-be-liable-under-any-act","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/2012\/07\/rcmp-fail-again-how-to-not-be-liable-under-any-act\/","title":{"rendered":"RCMP Fail AGAIN + How to NOT Be Liable Under ANY Act"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Did you know the R.C.M.P. have a license to kill? That’s right, just like James Bond.<\/h3>\n

James Bond gets away with loads of crap, so do the police.<\/p>\n

Why do they wear that cool gun, taser, baton, mace and just-in-case-they-actually-run-into-a-real-criminal, a bullet proof vest? Are there many “real” criminals in Canada? I know there are some …but how many really?<\/p>\n

**Make sure to read the “How to NOT Be Liable Under ANY Act<\/strong>” Below<\/span><\/address>\n

Now, I’m NOT mocking the dangerous aspects of policing. In a very SMALL percentage of events they do face risk, in certain areas of a city (usually….but you never know). Canada is SO safe for police compared to so many places in the world. On a percentage basis, in most of Canada, I bet the risk factor is very, very low. Sound reasonable?<\/p>\n

I value and respect ANYONE who does their job honourably and treats people with respect, especially police, but I really wonder about a\u00a0policing organization that allows, therefore encourages criminal behaviour by their own officers<\/strong>. It makes it tough on the good officers and hard on honest citizens.<\/p>\n

Have we got more than a few instances of police going Rambo on unarmed, peaceful citizens? Yep. Probably more instances of that than of police getting shot at or beaten. Are you more afraid of getting hurt by police… or a criminal…. or one of those mysterious-everywhere-but-nowhere terrorists?<\/p>\n

Sometimes folks don’t fully “cooperate” (comply with unlawful demands) by providing ID (it’s not required in most instances) or giving their name and date of birth (again it’s not required in most instances), and I’m not talking physical resistance here. For any lack of cooperation you may get tasered, abused, maced or even shot (though rare). They call it “gaining compliance”. Again, this is not with ALL police, but enough that it is a concern and you don’t know the good cops from the bad cops!<\/p>\n

Did you know that “not cooperating” is not the same as “resisting” and you even have the lawful right to resist an unlawful arrest….just be prepared to be hurt. Don’t ever brandish an office stapler at an RCMP otherwise maybe they will taser you to death too…then they will lie about the events, in spite of video evidence, cover each other’s butts, get let off by the RCMP internal review and not face criminal charges in the public. At least FINALLY they face perjury charges. But it is like pushig a rope uphill to hold the actions of RCMP members to account (CBC perjury article<\/a> –\u00a0 PDF of article Mounties face charges in Dziekanski case – British Columbia – CBC News<\/a>).<\/p>\n

\u00a0new updates May 2, 20113 at bottom<\/span><\/address>\n

A recent decision on an old case just makes the RCMP get away with murder story get even more bizarre.<\/p>\n

Let’s See How to NOT Be Liable Under Any Act the RCMP Way<\/strong><\/h3>\n

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Can you withdraw your consent and not be liable? It appears so.<\/h3>\n\n

In 2008 RCMP officer driving home from drinking hits and kills a motorcyclist. OOPS (crime 1)<\/p>\n

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  1. He leaves the scene 2008<\/strong> (crime 2),<\/li>\n
  2. immediately\u00a0goes drinks some alcohol to hide the fact he drank BEFORE the accident,<\/li>\n
  3. offers no assistance to the dieing\u00a0victim,<\/li>\n
  4. gets suspended from RCMP WITH pay,<\/li>\n
  5. for five years, suspended with pay (really??),<\/li>\n
  6. no internal RCMP discipline,<\/li>\n
  7. finally gets convicted in Provincial Court in 2012<\/strong>,<\/li>\n
  8. moments before his sentencing hearing<\/span> hands in his RCMP resignation,<\/li>\n
  9. his superior accepts the resignation (regretfully because he wanted to fire him….five years later? ya sure – I believe that)<\/li>\n
  10. now convicted ex-RCMP officer is no longer subject to any discipline under the RCMP Act which he was subject to, for the previous five years, with no actions against him! (more in a moment on this)<\/li>\n
  11. side note…this now convicted ex-RCMP happens to be the same RCMP guy who was in charge of the airport-taser-the-man-holding-the-stapler-to-death incident (proven to have perjured himself later about it – Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver airport in October 2007, fortunately videoed on a bystanders phone (which was apparently taken at the scene by the police who promptly deleted the video, which had to be recovered by a\u00a0techie\u00a0type that later proved all the “facts” claimed by the RCMP co-conspirators were lies)<\/li>\n
  12. only gets convicted of obstruction of justice for drinking to hide his drinking (and leaving the scene?)<\/li>\n
  13. what about manslaughter and other related crimes anyone else<\/span> would face???<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    It’s so ridiculous, the complete failure of the RCMP, prosecutors and courts to investigate, prosecute, convict and appropriately sentence police criminal acts, it is farcical. Talk about bringing “justice into disrepute”.<\/p>\n

    The general public has little trust or respect for the police, lawyers, courts and justice system because these types of abuses which are SO OBVIOUS.<\/p>\n

    \u00a0Are We All Equal At Law?<\/h2>\n

    Let’s play a game. Let us pretend you or I would get the same treatment for wrong doing as a RCMP officer. Kind of like we were all equal before the law.\u00a0 \ud83d\ude42\u00a0 What a concept!<\/p>\n

    Let us look at ONE statement from the RCMP Deputy Commissioner<\/strong> Craig Callens who accepted that officer’s resignation. What exactly did he say and what does it mean to you and I?<\/p>\n

    “Mr. Robinson\u2019s career with the RCMP has ended<\/span>. As a private citizen, h<\/span>e is no longer subject to any disciplinary actions under the RCMP Act<\/span>; however, he is still subject to the ongoing criminal matters,” he said.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    Let’s go step by step:<\/strong><\/p>\n

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    1. YOU agree to be UNDER any Act so you are SUBJECT to it…. (RCMP, MVA, ITA, ETA etc.)<\/li>\n
    2. you commit an offence UNDER said ACT while\u00a0you are SUBJECT to the Act and its PENALTIES….<\/li>\n
    3. you\u00a0are FOUND GUILTY of said offences under said Act….<\/li>\n
    4. you\u00a0then, AFTER offences and before the guilty conviction<\/strong><\/span>, RESIGN from being under said ACT<\/span><\/li>\n
    5. you\u00a0then, apparently, ARE NOT LIABLE for ANY punishment UNDER the Act because\u00a0you are NO LONGER UNDER the Act<\/li>\n
    6. if we are all really equal under the law….and if cops that kill people are correct to use such “legal maneuvers” ANYONE is with regards to ANY Act.<\/li>\n
    7. Are there any Acts you want to resign from, at any time, including and up until moments before being sentenced? (probably after too)<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n

      UPDATE: The sentencing is done and Monty gets a free pass, doesn’t even have to stand in front of a judge while his sentence is passed (you try that). Disgusting again. A few editorial articles and a lot of people agree. More than four years of PAID LEAVE (probably over $300,000 without working) and he gets a 1 month house arrest and “strict” curfew. Wow. Kill someone with your car while under the influence of alcohol, leave the scene without providing assistance, drink more alcohol to mask the pre-collision drinking and get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to hang out while the RCMP FAILS to discipline and shocker… so do the courts. Is that a fair summary or what? Oh yes, he was in charge of a gang of on duty RCMP ruffians who tasered a TOURIST to death at the airport, then lied about it and are facing perjury charges but nothing else. SAD!
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      \u00a0This article from the Vancouver Sun:<\/strong><\/p>\n

      Conditions for Robinson’s sentence include a $1000 victim surcharge, keeping the peace during the 12-month period and following a strict curfew.<\/p>\n

      Robinson was also ordered to write a letter of sympathy to the Hutchinson family.<\/p>\n

      Read more\u00a0 PDF OF ARTICLE<\/a>: \u00a0\u00a0 http:\/\/www.vancouversun.com<\/a><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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      Rather, according to Dillon, other factors militating against incarceration included the fact that Robinson was a first-time offender, and as a police officer, he would have to be held in protective custody if he were sent to jail.<\/p>\n

      So for Dillon, Robinson’s being a police officer worked against imposing a custodial sentence. And this is where the problem lies. For Robinson’s status as a cop should really amount to an aggravating factor<\/span> – after all, the police are responsible for administering justice, yet justice is precisely what Robinson obstructed. It is therefore a very serious matter when a cop obstructs justice.<\/strong> And this alone should weigh very heavily in favour of incarceration. Furthermore, as Dillon detailed, there were other aggravating factors, including the fact that Robinson never showed any remorse, nor did he accept responsibility for his actions.<\/span><\/p>\n

      Altogether then, Robinson’s status and his actions cry out for a jail sentence. And Dillon’s sentence cries out for an appeal.\u00a0 Vancouver Sun article<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

      \u00a0This article from the National Post:<\/strong><\/p>\n

      That the British Columbia detachment of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police has serious problems has been<\/strong> obvious for years<\/a>.<\/strong> The RCMP\u2019s entire disciplinary process needs an overhaul \u2014 even the commissioner<\/a> of the force agrees with that \u2014 and B.C. is in a particularly bad way. The province has long been treated as a dumping ground for the most troublesome of the force\u2019s officers that the dysfunctional disciplinary process makes it impossible to get rid of.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

      ….He will serve no time actually behind bars. It seems a light sentence given that an investigation into a fatal crash was deliberately compromised by a man sworn to uphold the law, not obstruct it.<\/span><\/p>\n

      Robinson may yet see the inside of a jail cell, of course, pending the outcome of his upcoming trial for perjury relating to his allegedly false testimony during the Dziekanski hearings. But until then, it seems doubtful that the tarnished reputation of the B.C. Mounties will be helped much by a former officer dodging jail time in a circumstances where the average citizen could have reasonably expected to see jail time handed down, and would almost certainly have expected to receive some themselves in caught up in similar circumstances.<\/p>\n

      National Post<\/a> – Link to Article
      \nmgurney@nationalpost.com\u00a0       PDF of Article<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

      What amazing insights have you just gained?<\/p>\n

      Hmmm. What do you think? If we are in fact all equal under the law….makes perfect sense.<\/p>\n

      Comments? Leave ’em below.<\/p>\n

      CBC Disgraced Cop Resigns Article<\/a>\u00a0 – –\u00a0 PDF of article – Disgraced B.C. Mountie resigns before sentencing<\/a><\/p>\n

      image courtesy: http:\/\/thenonconformer.wordpress.com\/<\/p>\n

      UPDATE May 2, 2013<\/p>\n

      the crap just keeps piling higher and deeper for the disgraced RCMP<\/p>\n

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      Former Kelowna Mountie handed suspended sentence for kicking man during arrest<\/h1>\n<\/div>\n
      Canadian Press\u00a0May 2, 2013 12:10 PM<\/div>\n

      KELOWNA – A judge in Kelowna has handed a former Mountie a suspended sentence and 18 months probation for assaulting a suspect.<\/p>\n

      Geoff Mantler pleaded guilty to assault causing bodily harm for kicking Buddy Tavares in the face during an arrest in the Okanagan city two years ago.<\/p>\n

      The arrest, which was caught on video by a bystander, showed Mantler kicking the man who was on his knees was about to lay on the ground.<\/p>\n

      The sentence reflects the Crown request for Mantler’s punishment.<\/p>\n

      Mantler’s lawyer was seeking a conditional discharge.<\/p>\n

      The sentence means Mantler, who resigned from the force after the allegation, will have to report to a probation officer for the next 18 months.<\/p>\n

      (CKFR) \u00a0PDF of Article\u00a0Former Kelowna Mountie handed suspended sentence for kicking man during arrest<\/a><\/p>\n

      http:\/\/www.vancouversun.com\/news\/Former+Kelowna+Mountie+handed+suspended+sentence+kicking\/8327930\/story.html<\/p>\n

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      Child, 11, believed handcuffed in basement for months; Ottawa RCMP officer, wife charged<\/h1>\n<\/div>\n
      By Meghan Hurley, OTTAWA CITIZEN\u00a0February 14, 2013<\/div>\n
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      OTTAWA \u2014 A 41-year-old RCMP officer and his 34-year-old wife are accused of aggravated sexual assault, failing to provide the necessaries of life and forcible confinement after a child abuse investigation.<\/p>\n

      According to police sources, the charges come after an 11-year-old was found wandering an Ottawa neighbourhood, starving and dehydrated. The child is believed to have been confined with shackles and handcuffs in a basement for several months.<\/p>\n

      The child\u2019s injuries are still being assessed, sources say.<\/p>\n

      Ottawa police said the officer was arrested Tuesday after an investigation at his residence. He is charged with three counts of aggravated assault, three counts of assault with a weapon, and one count each of aggravated sexual assault, failing to provide the necessities of life and forcible confinement.<\/p>\n

      The woman is charged with three counts of aggravated assault, two counts of assault with a weapon, and with failing to provide the necessaries of life and forcible confinement.<\/p>\n

      As of Wednesday the man was suspended with pay from his service as an RCMP officer and an internal investigation was underway, said Cpl. Lucy Shorey of RCMP A Division.<\/p>\n

      The officer has also not been on active duty since May of 2011.<\/p>\n

      Shorey said she could not give details about why the man hasn\u2019t been on active duty, how long the man has worked for the RCMP or in what capacity for several reasons, including wanting to protect the identity of the youth involved.<\/p>\n

      Police say they won\u2019t release the name of the accused to protect the identity of the victim.<\/p>\n

      Both accused were expected to appear in court Thursday.<\/p>\n

      Anyone with information can call the Ottawa police sexual assault\/child abuse unit at 613-236-1222, extension 5944.<\/p>\n

      With files from Andrew Seymour and Shaamini Yogaretnam<\/p>\n

      mhurley at ottawacitizen.com<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

      \u00a9 Copyright (c)\u00a0The Ottawa Citizen<\/div>\n
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      PDF of Article:\u00a0Child, 11, believed handcuffed in basement for months; Ottawa RCMP officer, wife charged<\/a><\/div>\n

      http:\/\/www.vancouversun.com\/news\/Ottawa+RCMP+officer+wife+charged+after+child+abuse\/7966493\/story.html<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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      Mountie under investigation over his conduct in Surrey Six case now is charged with theft, quits RCMP<\/h1>\n<\/div>\n
      By Elaine O’Connor, The Province\u00a0May 2, 2013 1:14 PM<\/div>\n
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      An RCMP officer who was under investigation<\/strong> for having a relationship with a potential witness in the Surrey Six case has left the force following a charge of theft<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

      Derek Brassington was charged with theft under $5,000 related to an off-duty incident in Burnaby on March 30.<\/p>\n

      The charge was sworn Wednesday after approval by special prosecutor Christopher Considine following an investigation by the Burnaby RCMP.<\/p>\n

      The former RCMP sergeant is due in Vancouver Provincial Court on May 7.<\/p>\n

      RCMP brass announced Brassington\u2019s departure from the force on Thursday.<\/p>\n

      \u201cThis morning Mr. Brassington\u2019s discharge documents were received and signed by the Commanding Officer. Mr. Brassington voluntarily submitted these documents<\/strong>,\u201d RCMP Chief Supt. Brian Cantera said in a statement.<\/p>\n

      \u201cWhile we have been clear that the RCMP was seeking his involuntary dismissal, the opportunity to discharge him from the organization this morning was one which eliminated further delays, costs and uncertainty,\u201d Cantera continued.<\/p>\n

      \u201cMr. Brassington\u2019s career with the RCMP has ended. As a private citizen he will no longer be subject to any disciplinary actions under the RCMP Act and we will not be commenting further about his employment.<\/strong><\/span>\u201d<\/p>\n

      Brassington has been charged with obstruction of justice and breach of trust<\/strong> in relation to his alleged conduct with a witness during the investigation of the Surrey Six murder case.<\/p>\n

      A special prosecutor approved seven charges against him in June 2011. Brassington is due in B.C. Supreme Court on those charges this fall.<\/p>\n

      Three other RCMP officers will face charges in connection with that investigation, ranging from breach of trust to compromising the safety of a witness: Sgt. David Attew, Cpl. Paul Johnston and Cpl. Danny Michaud.<\/p>\n

      The officers were suspended in 2010 after an investigation<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

      The October 2007 Surrey Six gangland hit in Surrey\u2019s Balmoral Tower apartment building left four gang associates dead \u2014 Edward Narong, 22, Corey Lal, 21, Michael Lal, 26, and Ryan Bartolomeo, 19 \u2014 and claimed two innocent victims \u2014 Chris Mohan, 22, a building resident on his way to play basketball, and Ed Schellenberg, 55, a tradesman who was repairing the gas fireplace in the targeted suite at the time.<\/p>\n

      Three men accused of the crime \u2014 Cody Haevischer, Matthew Johnston, Michael Le \u2014 will face trial on murder charges in B.C. Supreme Court in New Westminster this fall.<\/p>\n

      Co-accused Jamie Bacon will have a separate trial in Vancouver, at a yet- to-be-determined date.<\/p>\n

      A fifth man, Sophon Sek, is charged with manslaughter and is to make his next appearance in Surrey Provincial Court next January.<\/p>\n

      Dennis Karbovanec pleaded guilty to three counts of second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder and was sentenced to life in prison.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

      \u00a9 Copyright (c) The Province<\/div>\n
      PDF of Article: Mountie under investigation over his conduct in Surrey Six case now is charged with theft, quits RCMP<\/a><\/div>\n
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      http:\/\/www.theprovince.com\/news\/Mounties+charged+over+Surrey+investigation+retain+lawyers\/7965418\/story.html<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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      Mounties charged over Surrey Six investigation retain lawyers; trial likely to be delayed<\/h1>\n<\/div>\n
      By Keith Fraser, The Province\u00a0February 14, 2013<\/div>\n
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      Lawyers for four Mounties charged in connection with the Surrey Six murder investigation are back on the case but the trial will be delayed, court heard Thursday.<\/p>\n

      The lawyers for the accused withdrew from the case in September following difficulties getting legal funding from the RCMP.<\/p>\n

      But during a brief appearance in B.C. Supreme Court Thursday, the lawyers advised Justice Arne Silverman that they had been retained to represent the accused.<\/p>\n

      \u201cGreat news, good work,\u201d said the judge.<\/p>\n

      Michael Klein, a lawyer representing accused Sgt. David Attew, told the judge it was unlikely they would be able to accommodate the September trial date but asked to preserve the court time to deal with pre-trial motions.<\/p>\n

      \u201cWe\u2019d like to come back in a month\u2019s time and have a schedule to accommodate the motions.\u201d<\/p>\n

      Special prosecutor Chris Considine told the judge that, realistically, he doubted the trial could go ahead in the fall, saying there was still some disclosure to be made to the defence.<\/p>\n

      Outside court, the defence lawyers declined to comment on whether the RCMP had now provided legal funding.<\/strong><\/p>\n

      It was unclear when the new trial will be. The next court appearance is April 2.<\/p>\n

      Attew faces six counts, including claiming false expenses, falsifying overtime claims and compromising the safety of a witness, identified only as Jane Doe.<\/strong><\/p>\n

      Sgt. Derek Brassington is charged with seven offences, including breach of trust, fraud, obstruction of justice and compromising the safety of a witness.<\/strong><\/p>\n

      Cpl. Paul Johnston and Cpl. Danny Michaud face four and three charges, respectively.<\/strong><\/p>\n

      kfraser at theprovince.com\u00a0<\/i>\u00a9 Copyright (c) The Province<\/span><\/p>\n

      PDF of Story:\u00a0Mounties charged over Surrey Six investigation retain lawyers; trial likely to be delayed<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

      http:\/\/www.theprovince.com\/news\/Mounties+charged+over+Surrey+investigation+retain+lawyers\/7965418\/story.html<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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      Did you know the R.C.M.P. have a license to kill? That’s right, just like James Bond. James Bond gets away with loads of crap, so do the police. Why do they wear that cool gun, taser, baton, mace and just-in-case-they-actually-run-into-a-real-criminal, a bullet proof vest? Are there many “real” criminals in Canada? I know there are…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":184,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[106,19,17,73],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2639","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-court-process-2","category-free-members","category-privacy-in-the-news","category-training-2","no-featured-image","loop-entry clr"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2639","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/184"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2639"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2639\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2639"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2639"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/private-person.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2639"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}